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stabilization of taxes and for some, a tax cut. regulators that use common sense and not overdue it. we have strong regulations on oil and gas. the toughest in the country. we don't overdo it. when people understand certainty, they invest. this is not theory. i was in business for ten years. we had a lot of people that had never been in business their entire lifetime. they don't understand it. i do understand it. when they are confident of the future, they can invest. there's a lot of money on the sidelines. if romney wins, i think we'll see an improved economy. that's why i'm for him. i want ohio to do better than we are. >> an attack line from the president is that romney is not one of us. that's what's running in his ads. it's supporting auto workers in your state. here is an editorial last sunday. the question is, which romney are voters going to get? which romney would they elect. the liberal one who ran for senate in '94, the pragmatic governor, the candidate of this year's gop primary? all politicians change positions over t
stabilization of taxes and for some, a tax cut. regulators that use common sense and not overdue it. we have strong regulations on oil and gas. the toughest in the country. we don't overdo it. when people understand certainty, they invest. this is not theory. i was in business for ten years. we had a lot of people that had never been in business their entire lifetime. they don't understand it. i do understand it. when they are confident of the future, they can invest. there's a lot of money on...
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fugate if they could get reimbursed with federal tax dollars and he said that yes, that would be the case. that would be step one, a delay, and next, it is not up to the states, it would be a case by case. >> these early reports where we're getting where we can't get pictures yet out of the area just north of new york city is of some catastrophic damage, trees still down, over the wires, arcing wires, so we're in for a long couple of days. chuck todd in the west wing, of the briefing room at the white house. chuck, thanks. we'll be right back after the break. our coverage will continue right after this. ♪ with a low national plan premium... ♪ ...and copays as low as one dollar... ♪ ...saving on your medicare prescriptions is easy. ♪ so you're free to focus on the things that really matter. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. or go to walmart.com for details. get coricidin hbp. the number one pharmacist recommended cold brand designed for people with high blood pressure. and the only one i use to relieve my cold symptoms without raising my blood pressure. coricidin hbp. those littl
fugate if they could get reimbursed with federal tax dollars and he said that yes, that would be the case. that would be step one, a delay, and next, it is not up to the states, it would be a case by case. >> these early reports where we're getting where we can't get pictures yet out of the area just north of new york city is of some catastrophic damage, trees still down, over the wires, arcing wires, so we're in for a long couple of days. chuck todd in the west wing, of the briefing room...
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made some extensions, giving more time to pay business taxes, that sort of thing it is cold, very cold, no electricity, no heat, it is tough. >> and i'm watching your pictures in the report for the town of manasquan, lester holt with our overview of this tonight, thank you. these emergencies are still coming into us tonight, as well, across this vast region, including one happening in a densely packed, tightly inhabited urban area, just across the hudson river from new york city, in hoboken, new jersey, correspondent katy tur has been covering there for us all day, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian, for the first time since monday night people are able to leave their homes to get a good sense of what the damage is. but the water is still very high in a number of these areas, and they're not expecting it to be fully gone until at least tomorrow night. 20,000 people trapped, hoboken became a virtual island as 500 million gallons of water overwhelmed the town. by wednesday morning the national guard came in to help, delivering much needed food and supplies to those still stra
made some extensions, giving more time to pay business taxes, that sort of thing it is cold, very cold, no electricity, no heat, it is tough. >> and i'm watching your pictures in the report for the town of manasquan, lester holt with our overview of this tonight, thank you. these emergencies are still coming into us tonight, as well, across this vast region, including one happening in a densely packed, tightly inhabited urban area, just across the hudson river from new york city, in...
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no new taxes. he breaks that pledge. but also a down economy. jimmy carter has a down economy as well. and the reality is, that this president still is facing a down economy. >> but you can overcome a down economy with the graph you showed. it's really the trajectory that matters. but to me the signature weakness of the obama campaign has been the lack of a second term message. i think that people fire incumbents when they don't show the energy and the passion for the job. that's to me why that first debate was so devastating for president obama, because it underscored people's worst views of what the president could be, kind of listless, lacking fight, lacking passion. i remember the 1992 campaign. that was kind of the book on george h.w. bush, he just didn't have fire for the job beyond, i ought to be re-elected. you have to have a message beyond i'm entitled to be re-elected. >> the obama people made an interesting calculation, which is we have problems with the economy so we'll make our campaign about mitt romney. and it may work politically
no new taxes. he breaks that pledge. but also a down economy. jimmy carter has a down economy as well. and the reality is, that this president still is facing a down economy. >> but you can overcome a down economy with the graph you showed. it's really the trajectory that matters. but to me the signature weakness of the obama campaign has been the lack of a second term message. i think that people fire incumbents when they don't show the energy and the passion for the job. that's to me...
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a stabilization of taxes and for some people, a tax cut. and we will have regulators that will use common sense and not overdo it. we have strong regulations here on oil and gas that on fracking, the toughest in the country, but we don't overdo it when people understand certainty, they invest, david look this is not theory. i fwhas business for ten years, we had a lot of people around debating, never been in business in their entire lifetime. and they don't understand it, i do understand it. and the fact is, when they are confident of the future, they can then invest. and there's a lot of money sitting on the sidelines, if romney wins, i believe we're going to see a significantly improved economy. that's why i'm for him. ik i want ohio to do a lot better than we currently are. >> one of the big attack lines of the president is that romney is not one of us.n that's what running in his ads, about supporting auto workers in your state. separately, here was the "cleveland plain dealer" editorial last sunday.as which romney are voters going to g
a stabilization of taxes and for some people, a tax cut. and we will have regulators that will use common sense and not overdo it. we have strong regulations here on oil and gas that on fracking, the toughest in the country, but we don't overdo it when people understand certainty, they invest, david look this is not theory. i fwhas business for ten years, we had a lot of people around debating, never been in business in their entire lifetime. and they don't understand it, i do understand it....
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his plan cuts millionaires' taxes, but raises yours. he'll voucherize medicare... and make catastrophic cuts to education. so remember what romney said... and what his plan would do. president obama: i'm barack obama and... i approve this message. we were told to build a 30-foot stage. gathered the guys and we built that 30-foot stage, not knowing what it was for. just days later, all three shifts were told to assemble in the warehouse. a group of people walked out on that stage and told us that the plant is now closed and all of you are fired... i looked both ways, i looked at the crowd, and...we all just lost our jobs. we don't have an income. mitt romney made over 100 million dollars by shutting down our plant and devastated our lives. turns out that when we built that stage, it was like building my own coffin, and it just made me sick. [ male announcer ] priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> sandy is expected to affect beach communities along the east coast. beach towns in new jersey are already bracing for impact. wcau i
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families maintain higher after tax income. >> all right. alan kruger the chairman of the council of economic advisers. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thank you. >> we'll see you next month as well. just because the election happens doesn't mean we won't. thank you. trivia time we asked what is the last time minnesota voted for a republican in the presidential election. the answer 1972. richard nixon's landslide second election. before that you go back to 1956. giving the white house soup of the day, not many there to eat it, roasted vegetable. this is the time of year when i care more about soup because i do eat soup myself almost every day. [ female announcer ] want to spend less and retire with more? then don't get nickle and dimed by high cost investments and annoying account fees. at e-trade, our free easy-to-use online tools and experienced retirement specialists can help you build a personalized plan. and with our no annual fee iras and a wide range of low cost investments, you can execute the plan you want at a low cost. so me
families maintain higher after tax income. >> all right. alan kruger the chairman of the council of economic advisers. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thank you. >> we'll see you next month as well. just because the election happens doesn't mean we won't. thank you. trivia time we asked what is the last time minnesota voted for a republican in the presidential election. the answer 1972. richard nixon's landslide second election. before that you go back to 1956. giving...
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tax efficient and low cost building blocks to help you keep more of what you earn. call your advisor. visit ishares.com. ishares. yeah, ishares. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. >>> welcome back to "hardball." we're waiting for sandy to make landfall. more than 2.2 million homes are without power in the mid-atlantic states and the northeast. now the politics of this storm and the presidential race, editor of the daily beast and joy an read. jim, i haven't talked to you in a while. but i made a mistake, it was jane bern who benefited from the machine out there. tell us about what your experience is as a general reporter to what weather can do to elections. >> chris, i think as we said before it takes snow and i'm a native new yorker, and very weak response to a huge snowstorm. he lost in chicago in 1979. in the early '90s, a couple of washington bad storms, marion barry's stock plummeted. >> give me the reason for that. why do p
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so as a result there is an extreme weather tax now. it's going to be billions and billions of dollars, and while mitt romney is concerned about the koch brothers, the average american right now is worried about global warming, worried about climate change, worried about the impact on their family. >> who are these people, professor, who fight you? who are these people that write op-ed pieces in "the wall street journal" with such assurance that this is all bogus science? who -- are they phonies? are they quacks? >> there are different motivations. some people don't want to hear about global warming because it's bad news and there's enough bad news in the world and everybody has plenty to worry about anyway. some people don't want to hear about it because it gets in the way of their economic interests, those would be the fossil fuel companies, for instance. and some people are just generally skeptical and don't like experts, and, frankly, i don't like experts all the time myself either. but these are the facts. every academy of science
so as a result there is an extreme weather tax now. it's going to be billions and billions of dollars, and while mitt romney is concerned about the koch brothers, the average american right now is worried about global warming, worried about climate change, worried about the impact on their family. >> who are these people, professor, who fight you? who are these people that write op-ed pieces in "the wall street journal" with such assurance that this is all bogus science? who --...
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they think as long as you give massive tax cuts to the wealthy, that will generate an environment which -- look, it's how they are about offshoring and all those issues. they look at it, when you talk to them privately, it's a global economy, so it doesn't matter where you make money, as long as your shareholders do well, everything will work. look, we have stake holders that live in north philadelphia and out here in cleveland. it matters where you grow the economy. it matters whether you grow it here in cleveland and ohio. it matters whether people are able to have access to a college education. it's the stuff of which this country is built. >> last question, how close is it going to be on tuesday night? >> look, i don't want to jinx myself. >> then don't. what do you think is going to happen? >> i think we're going to win. i don't think it's going to be close in the electoral college. i think we're going to win clearly and i think we're going to win this state, ohio. i've been in here 23, 24 days, i think we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an
they think as long as you give massive tax cuts to the wealthy, that will generate an environment which -- look, it's how they are about offshoring and all those issues. they look at it, when you talk to them privately, it's a global economy, so it doesn't matter where you make money, as long as your shareholders do well, everything will work. look, we have stake holders that live in north philadelphia and out here in cleveland. it matters where you grow the economy. it matters whether you grow...
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measure n would add a 1 cent per ounce tax on sodas and other sugary drinks. if it passes, richmond would become the country's first city to impose such a tax on businesses. the town hall meeting starts at 7:00 at bethlehem hem missionary baptist church in richmond. >> 6:25. >>> a big celebration in san francisco civic center last night. thousands gather to watch the giants win the world series. [ cheering ] the chain was flowing out -- champagne were flowing out there although fans were not supposed to have alcohol in the plaza. mayor lee wanted to give families chance to cheer on the giants together. >> i knew it was going to happen. you know, it was already written, and the giants, they came through with flying colors. number one, baby! number one! [ cheering ] >> this is not the first time fans have been invite to the civic center plaza. more than 7,000 fans were there to watch the giants win the world series in 2010. >>> now, the city of san francisco's preparing a victory parade for the giants this wednesday, halloween. just like in 2010, the ticker- tap
measure n would add a 1 cent per ounce tax on sodas and other sugary drinks. if it passes, richmond would become the country's first city to impose such a tax on businesses. the town hall meeting starts at 7:00 at bethlehem hem missionary baptist church in richmond. >> 6:25. >>> a big celebration in san francisco civic center last night. thousands gather to watch the giants win the world series. [ cheering ] the chain was flowing out -- champagne were flowing out there although...
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. >> if you vote early, you don't have to pay taxes. i'm sorry, i'm being told that's not accurate. >> and the number one good thing about voting early, ladies and gentlemen. >> honestly, don't you want this election over with already? >>> it is 8:26. i'm laura garcia-cannon. we are following breaking news in san francisco. big delays on muni metro in and out of san francisco right now. we learned that all lines between west portal and embarkadaro are closed. muni is telling riders to ride the s market aboveground if you want to avoid the mess. in addition, b.a.r.t. is honoring muni passes. muni has stopped service this morning. christie smith is on the way to the scene. we will have a live update from the scene. let's check in with traffic. mike. >>> these are the muni metro trains through the montgomery station. it is closed right now because of a deadly accident on the tracks. we are tracking that. the impact on the maps. this is the overview of the city. the montgomery station is closed down. is honoring passes through market. look
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allen even voted against tax breaks for small businesses. virginia can't afford to go back to george allen. the democratic senatorial campaign committee... is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> all eyes are on hurricane sandy as it continues to lurk off to the south. it's now back up to hurricane strength. winds up to 75 miles per hour. richard? >> halloween is just days away but no need for the little ghosts and goblins to have long-term issues after eating all that candy. joining us this morning is dr. alex. good morning. let's talk about the good candy and the bad candy. which is better for you? >> okay. the sticky candy is the hard candy, the stuff that is going to sit in your mouth longer you should avoid but candy in general, it's sugar so it can cause decay. >> we have star burst here. that's sticky. gets stuck in your teeth for almost a day sometimes. >> chew gum afterwards, drink water with flouride. brush their teeth. >> what about chocolate? >> they can have chocolate too. i'm not going to say kids can't have can
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the good news for mitt romney tonight is the massive storm has made everyone forget about his secret tax returns. the bad news for mitt romney is the massive storm has made everyone forget about mitt romney. >> on the ground in the middle of the devastation, president obama will tour new jersey. >> the october surprise, bipartisanship. >> governor chris christie -- >> i cannot thank the president enough. >> -- and president obama -- >> we will not quit until this is done. >> together surveying the damage. >> a big storm requires some big government. >> the federal government -- >> it seems like common sense. >> -- will not quit until this is done. >> is there any possibility that governor romney may go to new jersey? >> there is no role for a challenger. >> i have no idea, nor am i the least bit concerned or interested. >> what does a challenger do in a major disaster? >> governor romney, he's back on the trail. >> we come together at times like this. >> back on the trail in florida. >> we love all of our fellow citizens. >> the question that's dogged him -- >> romney's position on fema.
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we're a 50/50 country deciding whether taxes go up or down, how you get health insurance. the fundamental role of government in your life could be decided. the great challenge for the winner will be governing in a climate more bitter, more polarized, more divided than we've had in a long time. all right. now we're going to get into the weeds. up next, time for a very heavy dose of flova. the view from the ground in the big three, florida, virginia and ohio. we'll go to each state live. >>> and speaking of flova, florida, ohio, virginia, here's a look at the president's schedule. romney's schedule, looks like he's making some time for the key stone state. and the vice president stopping by "hardball" tomorrow night. be sure to check it out. you're watching a primetime edition of "the daily rundown." we are locked up right here in democracy plaza. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... an
we're a 50/50 country deciding whether taxes go up or down, how you get health insurance. the fundamental role of government in your life could be decided. the great challenge for the winner will be governing in a climate more bitter, more polarized, more divided than we've had in a long time. all right. now we're going to get into the weeds. up next, time for a very heavy dose of flova. the view from the ground in the big three, florida, virginia and ohio. we'll go to each state live....
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. >> grover norquist is the no tax guy, made clear that the right wing of the party expects to call the shots. this is brazen, but let's listen to what was said and romney never opposed what he heard here. >> focus on electing the most conservative republican who can win in each house seat, and the most conservative republican who can win in each senate seat, and then pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> now, he's backing romney. romney signed the pledge for this guy. doesn't he ever call him out and say, you just made a fool out of me? you said i'm just going to be a robot. he never complains. >> no, he hasn't complained. >> he wanted norquist to believe he was going to be the guy with the pen. >> exactly. so you guys just pass it and i will sign it. now, would there come a point when mitt romney would actually challenge the right wing -- the far right wing of the party? there has not been a moment like that, not even remotely in this campaign. if you can remember one -- >> shannon, let's be open-minded. could it be m
. >> grover norquist is the no tax guy, made clear that the right wing of the party expects to call the shots. this is brazen, but let's listen to what was said and romney never opposed what he heard here. >> focus on electing the most conservative republican who can win in each house seat, and the most conservative republican who can win in each senate seat, and then pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> now,...
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this time he zero in on taxes in massachusetts. and a bither joke thrown it. >> there were higher fees for gas. there were higher gas for milk and higher fees for blund people who neepeded to get a certificate that they were blind . he raised feas for a birth certificate which would have been expensive for me. and the romney camp is pushing back and said the feas were raised to balance the state budget and as governor he cut other taxes. and the romney camp is angry about the birther things and rolling stone mag wreen where the president used profanity to describe romney. this is it a snaul campaign and instead of the president doing uplifting ret ruck. respiratory new hampshire is a small state but beautiful. and the president is going there close to the election. is the alabama -- obama campaign nervous. >> it sounds like. only four electorial. romney campaign has them on defense. and obama camp said they are in a strong position in ohio where he's been up and they think he can come to the smaller ones and build a fire wall. we s
this time he zero in on taxes in massachusetts. and a bither joke thrown it. >> there were higher fees for gas. there were higher gas for milk and higher fees for blund people who neepeded to get a certificate that they were blind . he raised feas for a birth certificate which would have been expensive for me. and the romney camp is pushing back and said the feas were raised to balance the state budget and as governor he cut other taxes. and the romney camp is angry about the birther...
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allen even voted against tax breaks for small businesses. virginia can't afford to go back to george allen. the democratic senatorial campaign committee... is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> you're watching news 4 today. >>> we are just about an hour away from the start of one of the biggest races of the year. >>> more than 30,000 people will be weaving their way through the streets of washington, d.c. and arlington. keith russell joins us live from the course. hey, keith. >> hey, richard. hey, angie. yes, we are about to start this race right before 8:00, the 37th annual marine corps marathon. chuck bell, we mentioned him, he's at another part of the course right now getting the final stretches in. he has a marathon weekend. meantime, like you said, 30,000 runners, over 11,000 first timers, 9,600 service members, first timers, maybe next time i'll be a first timer. what do you think? if i get this thing off my foot. i'm in this race next year. i'm in this race next year, guys. >> i'll do it with you. >> okay. >> we'll h
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the second part, the part where i got fired up, because i'm not $9 tax cuts for -- tax cuts 10 to one? and all of them said no. that's why obama's a better choice, he has a balanced approach. >> and bill clinton was making the choice in the final hours. >> three quick things. one, a stupid irritating republican primary that did not nothing to help the republican cause. two, an incredibly timid and negative and somewhat cynical obama campaign that will weakent him if he is re-elected. and a debate that took romney from dead to maybe president of the united states. >> that debate was huge, joe. >> i have to say, for me, it's a republican looking at the republican party, it was a horrifying primary process that damaged the republican brand. secondly, a terrible i think republican convention, where mitt romney didn't make the turn to the middle. and, third, just a remarkable first debate. that if mitt romney wins, it will be a debate that political scientists will be looking at 50 years from now. it really could be the big turning point.be >> i hate to agree, but the debate is the bc/ad l
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we're a 50/50 country deciding whether taxes go up or down, how you get health insurance. the fundamental role of government in your life could be decided. the great challenge for the winner will be more divided than we've had in a long time. all right. now we're going to get into the weeds. up next, time for a very heavy dose of flova. the view from the ground florida, virginia and ohio. here's a look at the president's schedule. romney's schedule, looks like he's making some time for the key stone state. and the vice president stopping by "hardball" tomorrow night. we're locked up right here in democracy plaza. what makes the sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. we have so much technology in our store to really show the customers what's going on with their bodies. this is your body there. you can see a little more pressure in the shoulders and in the hips. ... now you can feel what happens as we raise your sleep number setting and allow the bed to contour to your individual shape. oh, wow. that feels really
we're a 50/50 country deciding whether taxes go up or down, how you get health insurance. the fundamental role of government in your life could be decided. the great challenge for the winner will be more divided than we've had in a long time. all right. now we're going to get into the weeds. up next, time for a very heavy dose of flova. the view from the ground florida, virginia and ohio. here's a look at the president's schedule. romney's schedule, looks like he's making some time for the key...
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we're a 50/50 country deciding whether taxes go up or down, how you get health insurance. the fundamental role of government in your life could be decided. the great challenge for the winner will be more divided than we've had in a long time. all right. now we're going to get into the weeds. up next, time for a very heavy dose of flova. the view from the ground florida, virginia and ohio. here's a look at the president's schedule. romney's schedule, looks like he's making some time for the key...